Who gave me a warning? Hello???? This is Fred. Former mod.
There is either another rat in the mod's team but I doubt it or someone from the administration who makes good money thanks to Patryn the scammer, isn't liking what I'm doing.
Brian, was that you? Has money really made you so rot you're choosing the side of that criminal?
If that is the case, I would suggest to my fellow mods to resign collectively. If that is the case, Brian doesn't deserve your hard work anymore.
I have done a lot of good work for you Brian, worked my a$$ out up to 115 hours per week while you never paid me decently and now you're gonna ban me?
Tell me that wasn't you.
No Fred, it wasn`t Brian who warned you, it was me.
Concerns have been raised about the fact that you are targetting an exchanger who has been here for almost 12 months and doing business without too many problems.
Because of a perceived, or actual, link between them and Patryn you are engaged in attacks which don`t see fair to the exchange member.
As I explained at some length in the warning if you have a grievance you want to air then it belongs in the WZ, but not in the thread in the main forum.
If you aren`t able to use the WZ because of the time/posts criteria then you can ask for your old username to be unbanned.
No Fred, it wasn`t Brian who warned you, it was me.
Concerns have been raised about the fact that you are targetting an exchanger who has been here for almost 12 months and doing business without too many problems.
Because of a perceived, or actual, link between them and Patryn you are engaged in attacks which don`t see fair to the exchange member.
As I explained at some length in the warning if you have a grievance you want to air then it belongs in the WZ, but not in the thread in the main forum.
If you aren`t able to use the WZ because of the time/posts criteria then you can ask for your old username to be unbanned.
Not really a surprise you are on the side of the scammer, Geoff, as I had my doubts about you.
I must have missed your explanation in the warning yesterday or I would not have started this thread or the content would have been different at least.
You state:"Concerns have been raised about the fact that you are targetting an exchanger...".
Who has concerns? I'm pretty sure I know who hasn't any concerns in the mod's team!
I am not targeting an exchanger or any exchanger. I am trying to tell him who he is trusting, defending and why it could hurt the credibility he has built, which is something very different than "attacking" an exchanger which led to a warning "for a personal attack".
If I would do what I do by telling lies or pointless attacking an exchanger, you'd have a point, but I'm only telling the truth to give the potential users a fair chance to decide whether they want to take the risk to use an exchanger that is in bed with the worst scammer Talkgold has ever known and educate exchanger admins who weren't here "then" - honest ones - about their mistake in trusting what is not and never will be a trustworthy person. BTW I have never had a doubt about the exchanger in question and furthermore he had fair questions about my post, which I gladly answered in a polite way.
The e-currency folder is a scammer's heaven as of late. On almost a daily basis, there are people reporting having lost money, so I don't think that it is unimportant.
And finally, only a handful of people are aware who Patryn really is, what has happened here in the past. You and Brian are among that select club who are in the know and it hurts to see that both of you are defending that scamming a$$hole.
If I have to, if I get banned, I will take this to a new level. What won't happen is that I will get banned, leave and let the scamming happen. I care about the people visiting this forum, more than you will ever do.
If I have to, if I get banned, I will take this to a new level. What won't happen is that I will get banned, leave and let the scamming happen.
What are you going to do?
Issue an ultimatum to the Talkgold: ban Patryn or else? But what else exactly? You have no evidence to bring TG down and you are emotionally connected to it having worked here for free for so long.
Frankly, from what I have seen, you are no match for Patryn either way. I know who might be able to win against Patryn, but he is banned from TG (Laughing Dog).
Hi Fred,
I was the one that brought the concern up yesterday. Wm-center thread wasn't the place for this and I say you had 4 weeks up so warzone is there.
You can still contact any exchanger you feel needs to be warned about certain individuals. (website email IM)
I bet he might feel that posts in the WZ that no one pays attention to other than resident TG trolls are a small consolation prize for being used for four years and then kicked to the curb in favor of Patryn.
I bet it doesn't make him feel much better that it was done on the advice of an ex-mod who for some unknown (maybe) reasons is in favor of money launderers over TG volunteer mods.
The WM-center exchanger might not be a scam per ce (although it most likely is) but they are laundering money for criminals which makes them also criminals.
Good to know where the TG loyalties are. This might be a useful read for anyone planning on volunteering here.
Hi Fred,
I was the one that brought the concern up yesterday. Wm-center thread wasn't the place for this and I say you had 4 weeks up so warzone is there.
You can still contact any exchanger you feel needs to be warned about certain individuals. (website email IM)
Td
Hello Td,
Do not take this the wrong way, but when I'm trying to solve a problem I would appreciate if you didn't interfere.
Wm-center thread was definitely the place to inform the admin (and users of his service) who is clearly unaware about who he is trusting.
Not the WZ!
When a certain program is scamming, you don't warn members in the WZ but in the thread in question.
It seems that just about every mod wants me to continue the discussion in the WZ, far away from the place where the injustice is occurring. Unbelievable.
I bet he might feel that posts in the WZ that no one pays attention to other than resident TG trolls are a small consolation prize for being used for four years and then kicked to the curb in favor of Patryn.
I bet it doesn't make him feel much better that it was done on the advice of an ex-mod who for some unknown (maybe) reasons is in favor of money launderers over TG volunteer mods.
The WM-center exchanger might not be a scam per ce (although it most likely is) but they are laundering money for criminals which makes them also criminals.
Good to know where the TG loyalties are. This might be a useful read for anyone planning on volunteering here.
There are a lot of statements in the quote, which one you want to see the proof for?
More interestingly, why would I want to post it on a scam promotion forum because one of its mods asked and not give it to those who actually can and have the real authority do something about it?
I guess it would be a place if you made it in a little more polite manner... You can be effective without resorting to personal attacks....
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Originally Posted by em222
Hello Td,
Do not take this the wrong way, but when I'm trying to solve a problem I would appreciate if you didn't interfere.
Wm-center thread was definitely the place to inform the admin (and users of his service) who is clearly unaware about who he is trusting.
Not the WZ!
When a certain program is scamming, you don't warn members in the WZ but in the thread in question.
It seems that just about every mod wants me to continue the discussion in the WZ, far away from the place where the injustice is occurring. Unbelievable.
Who gave me a warning?
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